Saturday, February 24, 2007

Pundit's Question for Paul

Another saved run of comments, this time including Pundit's question for Paul Mason.

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Pundit said...
His lifeless body was taken by train back to Kashi...

So, Paul, you're saying that Mahesh was in Calcutta with the Shankaracharya, Swami Brahmanand Saraswati, when the Guru sat up in bed with his legs crossed and took his last breath.

And, you're saying that after the Swami expired, Mahesh took the body and put it on a train and sent it to Kashi.

Then Mahesh put the upright-sitting body in a concrete trunk and sank it in the Ganges River in front of a large group of people.

And you're saying that after that, the Mahesh took the Guru's sandals, his high chair, his umbrella, and other official accoutrements, including all the land and buildings at Jyotirmath and gave them to Shantanand, who he then installed on the Gaddi at Jyotirmath.

And this was all accomplished by a mere clerk from a family of scribes.


What was Mahesh doing down in Calcutta with the Guru instead of performing clerk duties at the Jyotirmath Ashram up in the Himalayas? And how could a mere clerk get ahold of the body of a saint and take it on a train? And for what purpose would the Mahesh send the body to Kashi instead of to the Jyotirmath? And how could the ashram cook get up on the Gaddi in front of all those people anyway?

Wednesday, February 21, 2007 10:25:00 PM

Anonymous said...
Mr Mason

Your blog evidently is a dedicated anti-TM site which you have launched after you have first attempted to create a legend of being a 'researcher' more knowledgeable about the TMO than people who have years of experience from it.

Question: since your anti slant is so strong and your commitment so long-term, do you not feel that in order to keep a least an iota of credibility in the eyes of seasoned internauts that you need to start publish sources for your remarkable claims?

Thursday, February 22, 2007 9:43:00 AM

Anonymous said...
You have raised very interesting questions, Paul.

It is a real blessing that now we can read the full text of the self-serving little used-car salesman's efforts to make a name for himself at the expense of Guru Dev and everything good that Guru Dev once stood for.

Beacon Light casts light in a very different way now than it might have been intended to back then.

Good on you.

aka S

Thursday, February 22, 2007 10:37:00 AM

Anonymous said...
You say, "But what was this desire to live and breathe and attune himself to his master's thoughts, and then to give others to understand he was a 'conduit' to his deceased master? Isn't it akin to claiming to channel a deceased virtuoso musician and then expecting recognition as the living embodiment of the said musician? For me this is decidedly creepy territory, in fact I find it preposterous!"

You find the living Reality of Guru Dev preposterous and creepy?

You live in a smaller box than you have indicated. Poor little man, you and the used car salesman (aka S)who wrote the previous comment.

I hope that you will escape your prison one day into the glorious sunshine of Reality.

Best of Luck.

Thursday, February 22, 2007 10:52:00 AM

Anonymous said...
In chapter 4, verse 34, in the second to last paragraph of his commentary on this verse, Paramahansa Yogananda writes about contacting a master after he has died:

"A disciple residing far away from the guru may practice a spiritual method of communion. The guru, one with God, is present everywhere including the wisdom-center (the point between the eyebrows) of all men. At the end of meditation each day the disciple should concentrate at the point between the eyebrows and visualize his guru. Thinking of him with love and devotion, the disciple should ask the questions he wants answered...In this way the advanced disciple can contact the guru even after the master has left the mortal flesh for invisible Omnipresence."


Thursday, February 22, 2007 12:06:00 PM

Sudarsha said...
Hey, Paul -- your insight into Mahesh, like Mahesh himself, raises a lot of questions, as does Beacon.

The more I learn about Mahesh's sources, the more I wonder why he felt he had to bend (ok, distort) those sources. They all seem compatible with what little we know Guru Dev was teaching.

If Beacon is a paean to Mahesh's ego, I guess that that explains everything. He probably felt he deserved credit for all the work everyone else did, because he so brilliantly make it fit his theory (which the TM casualties demonstrate he didn't do so brilliantly). -- Maybe he was never more than Guru Dev's peon and resented it big time. -- A conduit for Guru Dev? yes creepy, delusional, possibly certifyable. More likely a conduit for his own ego needs.


Thursday, February 22, 2007 12:15:00 PM

facedog said...
On the idea that disciples can be conduits for their teachers, consider the case of the great Yogi, Shivabalayogi, who never charged a cent for teaching meditation and scorned MMY as a "business man". When he died in 1994, leaving no announced successor, a number of people began to go around saying they had "become" Shivabalayogi through Bhava Samadhi. Two make annual trips to the US, in full Shivabalayogi dress, mimicking his body movements perfectly. One American by the name of Steven S. Sadleir, has decided that he is the real successor and charges $1500 to get Shaktipat over the phone.

Compared to these clowns, MMY isn't so bad :}

Thursday, February 22, 2007 6:54:00 PM

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